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John Kerry, still living off John Heinz III's money.

XO Historian 07/24/10 12:37 AM
securityeven 07/24/10 04:02 AM
XO Historian 07/24/10 09:22 AM
fscknut 07/24/10 09:48 AM
securityeven 07/24/10 09:54 AM
fscknut 07/24/10 09:54 AM
XO Historian 07/24/10 11:23 PM
securityeven 07/24/10 09:54 AM
Robin Finck 07/24/10 04:17 PM
XO Historian 08/01/10 11:31 PM
Robin Finck 07/24/10 04:15 PM
XO Historian 07/24/10 11:28 PM
Supe 07/25/10 01:58 AM
XO Historian 07/25/10 10:37 PM
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Author: XO Historian (renada)

Posted: 07/24/10 12:37 AM

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Klassy:

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view.bg?articleid=1269698

ALL of the money for this is from the late PA Senator John Heinz's vast wealth. I can't even decide whether this guy is alpha or beta. One the one hand, he married a woman with hundreds of millions (maybe billions) of dollars. On the other hand, said woman was the widow of a more popular, far wealthier man with a brighter future. Said wife also still refers to herself as "Teresa Heinz": ""My legal name is still Teresa Heinz. Teresa Heinz Kerry is my name...for politics. Just so people don't ask me questions about so and so is so and so's wife or this and that. Teresa Heinz is what I've been all my growing-up life, adult life, more than any other name. And it's the name of my boys, you know?"[7]

Chump or champ? What say ye, BLBers?


 


Author: securityeven

Posted: 07/24/10 04:02 AM

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Depends on what's going on in their relationship. If he has control of the money and doesn't have to take lip from her then he's pwning your life, but if he's basically her bitch i.e. he has to ask/beg her for money, has little say in anything and has to put up with her mouth constantly then, well, actually he's still pwning your life.

 


Author: XO Historian (renada)

Posted: 07/24/10 09:22 AM

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When I was briefly married, I found a situation like this intolerable. It was her family's money, though, and not that of an ex spouse. I was not desperate for money, but I never had the control and, because of trusts, never really would have the control (although children could have).

Kerry doesn't control the money, but he does have a say in how it's spent, I'm sure. Could you be comfortable with this? Have you ever seen Teresa Heinz in action? She's not a shrinking violet, she's a pretty aggressive woman. She's head of her husband's family foundation as her job--the John Heinz Foundation. Literally, her job is to protect and promote the legacy and causes of her late husband and his family.

John Heinz's children are going to receive the vast share of the fortune when it's said and done. John's own children and fairly TTT and live a humble lifestyle, I doubt he can leave any of Heinz's wealth to his own kids--but at least he can enjoy the ride on the yacht, right? If that were me, I'd feel a little weird on that boat, knowing that when I die in 5 or 10 years, it's going to the children of my wife and her ex. I think about weird things like that, which is why I didn't handle marrying into serious money very well. It's more infantalizing than you'd imagine from the outside.

Kerry's an old man and he's probably more relaxed and cool about everything. I still find the situation funny, though.


 


Author: fscknut (I make obscure references to unobscure movies)

Posted: 07/24/10 09:48 AM

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More infantalizing than law school? Somehow I doubt John Kerry gets instructed, upon boarding the yacht, to go find his cubbyhole, wherein he will find his seat assignment.

 


Author: securityeven

Posted: 07/24/10 09:54 AM

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what the heck kind of analogy is that?

 


Author: fscknut (I make obscure references to unobscure movies)

Posted: 07/24/10 09:54 AM

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the kind you'd have to be literate to understand

 


Author: XO Historian (renada)

Posted: 07/24/10 11:23 PM

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For me, marrying into money was more infantalizing than law school. Of course, at the time, law school was more like LOL school. Two semesters of work, four semesters of surfing XO and going for long runs in Central Park, with OCI and call backs in Fall to break up the monotony. These days LS could be infantile, with moar emphasis on grades and handholding by career services.

When you marry into an out-of-sight wealthy family with old money trusts in place, no one tells you what to do explicitly, but that's not the issue. No one is rushing to re-title assets into your name or loan you the Hampton House for your friend's bachelor party weekend. You're not truly an equal. As a man, it is even worse than if you're a woman, because of society's built-in schemas.


 


Author: securityeven

Posted: 07/24/10 09:54 AM

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Wikipedia says Kerry's rich himself. Something about a Forbes family fortune.

 


Author: Robin Finck (brushing so hard my gums bleed master man)

Posted: 07/24/10 04:17 PM

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Too bad he couldn't use it properly. Y ug to BC law? At least Bush realized when he was beat and went the business route to maintain his ivy credentials.

 


Author: XO Historian (renada)

Posted: 08/01/10 11:31 PM

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I don't know where you got this information, since I haven't checked Wiki. But you're probably just too dumb to understand.

Here is what the Boston Globe, which covers Kerry, says:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/08/01/the_yacht_vs_the_pickup_truck/

Summary for the stupids out there (OK, who am I kidding, this is for SE):

Before marrying Heinz:

Living off his salary, with trust fund worth 100k at most. In other words, upper middle class at the very most. Not rich in any financial sense.

After marrying Heinz:

Shares assets worth at least $230 Mil. Married to a major philanthropist whose family money and assets are well into the billions.


 


Author: Robin Finck (brushing so hard my gums bleed master man)

Posted: 07/24/10 04:15 PM

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Chump. It would have been one thing if she was still a trophy wife when Kerry snagged her, but she was well past her prime at that point. It's a strange inversion: Women tend to crave status and power, which tend to be positively correlated with wealth, so it's odd that she went to someone with less star power than her. More surprisingly, she stuck by him after he suffered the emasculating blow of losing in 2004.

My theory is that she wants to be more connected to politics than merely running a think tank or being a big time donor along the lines of Soros - I don't think her wealth is even substantial enough for her to do that. Is it? I think she's getting the benefit of that relationship, since money for Kerry's yachts and other flights of fancy is of less significance to her than the access she gains by marrying a Senator with some seniority.


 


Author: XO Historian (renada)

Posted: 07/24/10 11:28 PM

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The Heinz Foundation is a major philanthropist organization and she jets around the world on its behalf. She met Kerry at a climate conference after Bush negged the Kyoto Protocol; Kerry and Heinz bonded over disagreement with the Bush policy.

She controls billions, although she herself can most likely only put her finger on 100M or so. They bought a $7M boat, it's safe to say she has "fuck you" money, the type of wealth locked up in trusts and foundations that would take several generations to spend, even with extreme profligacy.


 


Author: Supe ("can you eat prestige?")

Posted: 07/25/10 01:58 AM

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Britney has that kinda money and spends it with extreme profligacy.

 


Author: XO Historian (renada)

Posted: 07/25/10 10:37 PM

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I don't think Ms. Spears has hundreds of millions, let alone a billion. Heinz Foundation controls billions and Teresa Heinz can obviously put her hands on at least 100mil. It would be interesting to see the legal mechanisms in place, by which they evade taxes and prevent someone from draining the legacy in their own lifetime. Either way, I'm not sure Britney has "fuck you" money, and I think she is capable of draining what she has in her lifetime, which is part of why the court stepped in and has her assets under conservatorship at present.

 


Author: Supe ("can you eat prestige?")

Posted: 07/26/10 05:15 AM

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Hmm... I know she was spending it like crazy when she became famous, spending like there's no tomorrow. I guess with her going crazy the money started drying up a bit with spending only continuing. I'd expect her to still rake in a decent amount from her already released albums. Kinda sad we won't have any films to follow up on her great debut in Crossroads.

 


Author: securityeven

Posted: 07/26/10 07:44 AM

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The question is - how much would Ms. Heinz have to pay you for you to bang her? And be honest. I'd probably do it for nothing.

 



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